Is it Transdentalism &/or Fabian views or is it the idealisms developed from this splinter group - the "LABOR PARTY" that developed unprincipled manipulative mastership on the subversive side of psychological, political and dialectic instrumentation for the purpose of control over the global realities and to lead an outcome of their desired manifest destiny.
It is unclear how a platonic humanistic and self reliant approach could lead to this narcissistic self gratifying idealism.
If you could please connect the dots a little more for me?
The Fabian Society literally developed from this “humanist” group called The Fellowship of The New Life. It was a direct outgrowth from the 1883 group to the Fabian Society in 1884 and then in 1900 they created the labor party to focus on political goals. Did you read the article I hyperlinked about the fellowship for the new life? They were a really twisted bunch!!
Thank you, yes, I just found it and yes good to know the roots of evil spinoffs I know Matt often talks about this too, I really appreciate how you articulated this!
Transcendentalism had little to nothing to do with the Fabians, or the Fellowship of The New Life. You can scroll down to the bottom of the article I wrote on this to see all of the "connections" between the members, and Founder, of the Fellowship of the New Life, and Emerson's work. It's simply bad faith to suggest Emerson's work is connected to the Fabians.
Yes I’ve seen this. You showed me on Twitter. I don’t agree. The fellowship of the new life members literally say themselves that they were inspired by Transcendentalists. I’m not sure what you’re trying to pull or why?
Okay. Where did the Fellowship of the New Life Members say they were inspired by Ralph Waldo Emerson's work? I'd like to see the evidence.
I also posted on Twitter an image demonstrating the very loose connections that the Fellowship of the New Life had to Transcendentalism. Very weak! It's at the bottom of my article. Are you saying that's wrong?
It looks like you haven't read much of Emerson. I'm here to correct the record. Emerson had little to do with the Fabians. But I welcome you to demonstrate otherwise with direct quotes from Emerson's work.
really good article! the current UK government has numerous fabians and other types of globalists. I also know that the whole plato vs aristotle was a dialectic created by the death cult ruling over us. neither plato nor aristotle are entirely good or bad. but who do you prefer courtney?
Thank you! I really like aspects of both of their philosophies and yet I think there’s aspects to both that are problematic. Due to time constraints I’ll just name a few things I love about each of them/ I love Aristotles philosophy of virtues. I think he offers a lot of pragmatic value for ascertaining empirical and epistemological truth in the physical domain. I love Plato’s incorporation of the spiritual, his notion of a benevolent divine creator and his efforts to bring a meritocratic system of rigorous intellectual pursuits to a society where top tier education was reserved for those of certain bloodline or initiated via ritual practices into a mystery school. Both thinkers offered tremendous insights and paved the way for philosophical thought that shaped much of western civilization and yet they both had flaws in their framework which were exploited by those seeking to control masses.
"Metaphysically, Transcendentalists leaned heavily on idealism, asserting the belief that reality is fundamentally shaped by the mind or spirit rather than just material conditions."
That's wrong. But I challenge you to provide evidence of this. Ralph Waldo Emerson was ultimately a Realist who recognized man's Natural limits. He did not believe that reality is fundamentally shaped by mind or spirit outside of the "mind of god precipitated"; which we know as physics and their effects. Emerson explicitly says these cannot be altered by man. He also believes man is to passively observe and recognize Natural Law. Not to transform it with the mind of man.
Furthermore, the "particle of god" bit in The Over-Soul made no claims on developing equal powers of god.
Panentheism is not the same thing as pantheism. In panentheism, a Natural hierarchy is in place for every particle, and man cannot become god the whole. He remains a particle the same way a red blood cell is a particle of man's body.
Here's my article with direct quotes from Emerson's work:
Is it Transdentalism &/or Fabian views or is it the idealisms developed from this splinter group - the "LABOR PARTY" that developed unprincipled manipulative mastership on the subversive side of psychological, political and dialectic instrumentation for the purpose of control over the global realities and to lead an outcome of their desired manifest destiny.
It is unclear how a platonic humanistic and self reliant approach could lead to this narcissistic self gratifying idealism.
If you could please connect the dots a little more for me?
The Fabian Society literally developed from this “humanist” group called The Fellowship of The New Life. It was a direct outgrowth from the 1883 group to the Fabian Society in 1884 and then in 1900 they created the labor party to focus on political goals. Did you read the article I hyperlinked about the fellowship for the new life? They were a really twisted bunch!!
Thank you, yes, I just found it and yes good to know the roots of evil spinoffs I know Matt often talks about this too, I really appreciate how you articulated this!
Sinister, evil and creepy indeed! YW! I’m so glad you found it useful.
Transcendentalism had little to nothing to do with the Fabians, or the Fellowship of The New Life. You can scroll down to the bottom of the article I wrote on this to see all of the "connections" between the members, and Founder, of the Fellowship of the New Life, and Emerson's work. It's simply bad faith to suggest Emerson's work is connected to the Fabians.
https://open.substack.com/pub/rationalskeptic/p/in-defense-of-rwes-transcendentalism
Yes I’ve seen this. You showed me on Twitter. I don’t agree. The fellowship of the new life members literally say themselves that they were inspired by Transcendentalists. I’m not sure what you’re trying to pull or why?
Okay. Where did the Fellowship of the New Life Members say they were inspired by Ralph Waldo Emerson's work? I'd like to see the evidence.
I also posted on Twitter an image demonstrating the very loose connections that the Fellowship of the New Life had to Transcendentalism. Very weak! It's at the bottom of my article. Are you saying that's wrong?
It looks like you haven't read much of Emerson. I'm here to correct the record. Emerson had little to do with the Fabians. But I welcome you to demonstrate otherwise with direct quotes from Emerson's work.
really good article! the current UK government has numerous fabians and other types of globalists. I also know that the whole plato vs aristotle was a dialectic created by the death cult ruling over us. neither plato nor aristotle are entirely good or bad. but who do you prefer courtney?
Thank you! I really like aspects of both of their philosophies and yet I think there’s aspects to both that are problematic. Due to time constraints I’ll just name a few things I love about each of them/ I love Aristotles philosophy of virtues. I think he offers a lot of pragmatic value for ascertaining empirical and epistemological truth in the physical domain. I love Plato’s incorporation of the spiritual, his notion of a benevolent divine creator and his efforts to bring a meritocratic system of rigorous intellectual pursuits to a society where top tier education was reserved for those of certain bloodline or initiated via ritual practices into a mystery school. Both thinkers offered tremendous insights and paved the way for philosophical thought that shaped much of western civilization and yet they both had flaws in their framework which were exploited by those seeking to control masses.
i fully agree with you!
"Metaphysically, Transcendentalists leaned heavily on idealism, asserting the belief that reality is fundamentally shaped by the mind or spirit rather than just material conditions."
That's wrong. But I challenge you to provide evidence of this. Ralph Waldo Emerson was ultimately a Realist who recognized man's Natural limits. He did not believe that reality is fundamentally shaped by mind or spirit outside of the "mind of god precipitated"; which we know as physics and their effects. Emerson explicitly says these cannot be altered by man. He also believes man is to passively observe and recognize Natural Law. Not to transform it with the mind of man.
Furthermore, the "particle of god" bit in The Over-Soul made no claims on developing equal powers of god.
Panentheism is not the same thing as pantheism. In panentheism, a Natural hierarchy is in place for every particle, and man cannot become god the whole. He remains a particle the same way a red blood cell is a particle of man's body.
Here's my article with direct quotes from Emerson's work:
https://open.substack.com/pub/rationalskeptic/p/in-defense-of-rwes-transcendentalism